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Is it possible to drill out the locks on the other phone without destroying it That one should be the normalwestern style but none of the spare payphone keys I had laying around from back in the day unlock it.

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Unfortunately its just about empty - no coin bucket, no guts other than a dial and the hookswitch.

Any clues as to what model it is so I can look into getting some guts for it, and the possibility of having it be a smart phone so that I can coin enable it again Especially if I can get it to work on 984 tokens lol.

Although I was exhausted and didnt look too hard I couldnt find any tags on it, other than a date stamp of 1985 on the back inside of the case.

I would have never thought it was really that old The other is more like a standard issue payphone, also in fantastic shape, but unfortunately I have no way to get into it, and from what I understand it uses the VERY secure locks on it.

Any clues as to how to safely open the other one up That one does work at least on a normal line.

PS - if anyone else knows anything about thisthese just let me know, I just put Kens name on it since I think he knows everything about everything anyway;-).

Here is what you are missing: Terminal block for phone line wiring.

It connects the incoming phone line from the terminal block to the smart board.

Bolts to the coin hopper.

Elcotel smart boards).

Protel Expressnet Software Series 5 Elcotel

May require a swap of the kepdadhookswitch assembly to work with a series 5 Elcotel board.

Protel Expressnet Software Software I Can

Is there software I can getdownload to do this myself Just had a crazy Idea - set up both payphones with a little Asterisk PBX to call each other LOL.

I believe its an Elcotel board, but Ill have to double check.

I was able to get the phone working, but the programming for the rates is kind of screwy - some calls are a quarter, others it wants 75 cents for, and some just wont go through.

I really want to reprogram it so all calls are 25 cents, no time limit.

I read the chip into my EPROM programmer, but wasnt able to make sense of any of the data.

Is there software that can generate the binary image for this chip so I can just burn a new one and plug it in -Ian.

I guess you have to have the Elcotel software to do it, but now Im REAAALY curious as to how it looks if you call it with some terminal software.

From what I read on other posts it looks like if you got Payphone.com to do it, you would give them the of the phone and they call into it.

I also keep hearing rate file which Im sure is some text or binary file you can upload to the phone via xmodemzmodem somehow.

Elcotel phone managementprogramming software is called PNM (Payphone Network Manager) and is very expensive.

The Rate Center calls in to your phone and downloads the settings you want and updated local phone exchanges so it knows what calls are local and charges accordinly.